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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!

Yes, its called AERO, and it contains a stunning set of animations that are more functional and productive, known as visual cues. Thes include, Flip, Flip 3D, Taskbar Thumbnails just to name few. Also, you don't have compile your video card drivers to use it. You can get drivers from ATI or nVidia or they come bundled with Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "JP" wrote in message

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!

True but Vista sure do require ALOT more just to do these things.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Yes, its called AERO, and it contains a stunning set of animations that are more functional and productive, known as visual cues. Thes include, Flip, Flip 3D, Taskbar Thumbnails just to name few. Also, you don't have compile your video card drivers to use it. You can get drivers from ATI or nVidia or they come bundled with Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "JP" wrote in message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!

By what I've seen according to this:
http://en.opensuse.org/Xgl#Hardware_Advisory
The requirements are about the same as they are for Aero Glass. Aero Glass's requirements are only a tiny bit higher, but not hardly much more at all. An FX5100/5200 NVIDIA video card or a Radeon 9500 are minimum with 64MB of video RAM. Notice how a Radeon 9200 according to this website can't handle it well. The other major requirements are for Vista itself and not as much the Aero Glass. "JD" wrote in message

True but Vista sure do require ALOT more just to do these things.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yes, its called AERO, and it contains a stunning set of animations that are more functional and productive, known as visual cues. Thes include, Flip, Flip 3D, Taskbar Thumbnails just to name few. Also, you don't have compile your video card drivers to use it. You can get drivers from ATI or nVidia or they come bundled with Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "JP" wrote in message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!

I don't know, I will cast judgement when the product reaches RTM, we don't know if Microsoft has a few surprises left. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"JD" wrote in message

True but Vista sure do require ALOT more just to do these things.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yes, its called AERO, and it contains a stunning set of animations that are more functional and productive, known as visual cues. Thes include, Flip, Flip 3D, Taskbar Thumbnails just to name few. Also, you don't have compile your video card drivers to use it. You can get drivers from ATI or nVidia or they come bundled with Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "JP" wrote in message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!

To be honest André, I really don't think their will be. They already said that Beta 2 was feature complete, and the whole Aero "Diamond" or the vector Glass, it'd be practically impossible for most computers to run the spec. that people have claimed.
Wrote an article about vector Glass and how it's not coming - we're expecting an official statement from Microsoft today hopefully. http://www.msblog.org/?p=731
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

I don't know, I will cast judgement when the product reaches RTM, we don't know if Microsoft has a few surprises left. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"JD" wrote in message True but Vista sure do require ALOT more just to do these things.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yes, its called AERO, and it contains a stunning set of animations that are more functional and productive, known as visual cues. Thes include, Flip, Flip 3D, Taskbar Thumbnails just to name few. Also, you don't have compile your video card drivers to use it. You can get drivers from ATI or nVidia or they come bundled with Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "JP" wrote in message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!

What is your problem? Did you hear me say anything about any stupid Aero Diamond? Stop putting stupid assumptions in my mouth, I am not like you. If you didn't know, Vista is still not optimized for performance, we don't know if the UI requirements will change, its still too early and like Steve Ballmer says, there is still a lot of work to do.
Nothing I mentioned in my previous post related to new themes and you have to come with this non-sense, I was obviously talking about performance. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

To be honest André, I really don't think their will be. They already said that Beta 2 was feature complete, and the whole Aero "Diamond" or the vector Glass, it'd be practically impossible for most computers to run the spec. that people have claimed.
Wrote an article about vector Glass and how it's not coming - we're expecting an official statement from Microsoft today hopefully. http://www.msblog.org/?p=731
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message I don't know, I will cast judgement when the product reaches RTM, we don't know if Microsoft has a few surprises left. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"JD" wrote in message True but Vista sure do require ALOT more just to do these things.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yes, its called AERO, and it contains a stunning set of animations that are more functional and productive, known as visual cues. Thes include, Flip, Flip 3D, Taskbar Thumbnails just to name few. Also, you don't have compile your video card drivers to use it. You can get drivers from ATI or nVidia or they come bundled with Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "JP" wrote in message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!

Nooo - totally misconstrude my post then. Wasn't critising you whatsoever :o) I was just saying that I do think that some of the surprises have indeed come and gone - and was making a point about "true Glass" which was rumoured around the web, and that it's very very unlikely that it's not coming, and indeed never existed.
There was a C9 video about how the UI was complete (with a few minor tweaks) according to Jenny Lam, and although Ballmer said that, I honestly believe he means bug fixes etc.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

What is your problem? Did you hear me say anything about any stupid Aero Diamond? Stop putting stupid assumptions in my mouth, I am not like you. If you didn't know, Vista is still not optimized for performance, we don't know if the UI requirements will change, its still too early and like Steve Ballmer says, there is still a lot of work to do.
Nothing I mentioned in my previous post related to new themes and you have to come with this non-sense, I was obviously talking about performance. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message To be honest André, I really don't think their will be. They already said that Beta 2 was feature complete, and the whole Aero "Diamond" or the vector Glass, it'd be practically impossible for most computers to run the spec. that people have claimed.
Wrote an article about vector Glass and how it's not coming - we're expecting an official statement from Microsoft today hopefully. http://www.msblog.org/?p=731
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message I don't know, I will cast judgement when the product reaches RTM, we don't know if Microsoft has a few surprises left. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"JD" wrote in message True but Vista sure do require ALOT more just to do these things.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yes, its called AERO, and it contains a stunning set of animations that are more functional and productive, known as visual cues. Thes include, Flip, Flip 3D, Taskbar Thumbnails just to name few. Also, you don't have compile your video card drivers to use it. You can get drivers from ATI or nVidia or they come bundled with Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "JP" wrote in message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!

Performance also falls under the category of bug fixes. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message

Nooo - totally misconstrude my post then. Wasn't critising you whatsoever :o) I was just saying that I do think that some of the surprises have indeed come and gone - and was making a point about "true Glass" which was rumoured around the web, and that it's very very unlikely that it's not coming, and indeed never existed.
There was a C9 video about how the UI was complete (with a few minor tweaks) according to Jenny Lam, and although Ballmer said that, I honestly believe he means bug fixes etc.
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message What is your problem? Did you hear me say anything about any stupid Aero Diamond? Stop putting stupid assumptions in my mouth, I am not like you. If you didn't know, Vista is still not optimized for performance, we don't know if the UI requirements will change, its still too early and like Steve Ballmer says, there is still a lot of work to do.
Nothing I mentioned in my previous post related to new themes and you have to come with this non-sense, I was obviously talking about performance. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Zack Whittaker" wrote in message To be honest André, I really don't think their will be. They already said that Beta 2 was feature complete, and the whole Aero "Diamond" or the vector Glass, it'd be practically impossible for most computers to run the spec. that people have claimed.
Wrote an article about vector Glass and how it's not coming - we're expecting an official statement from Microsoft today hopefully. http://www.msblog.org/?p=731
-- Zack Whittaker » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared that up!
--: Original message follows :-- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message I don't know, I will cast judgement when the product reaches RTM, we don't know if Microsoft has a few surprises left. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"JD" wrote in message True but Vista sure do require ALOT more just to do these things.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yes, its called AERO, and it contains a stunning set of animations that are more functional and productive, known as visual cues. Thes include, Flip, Flip 3D, Taskbar Thumbnails just to name few. Also, you don't have compile your video card drivers to use it. You can get drivers from ATI or nVidia or they come bundled with Vista. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "JP" wrote in message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk&search=xgl Will these features be available in Vista? Based on the specs Vista requires, they better have these because this OS requires less!